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标题: 6月4日，俄军在南顿涅茨克方向挫败乌军大规模攻势 [打印本页]

作者: 远航一号 时间: 2023-6-5 03:11:15 标题: 6月4日，俄军在南顿涅茨克方向挫败乌军大规模攻势

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俄罗斯卫星通讯社莫斯科6月5日电俄罗斯国防部发言人伊戈尔∙科纳申科夫中将称，乌军自6月4日晨开始在南顿涅茨克方向前线5个部位展开大规模进攻。

科纳申科夫说：“乌军战略预备队第23和第31机械化旅在其他部队和分队的支援下自6月4日晨开始在南顿涅茨克方向前线5个部位展开大规模进攻。”

俄国防部发言人指出：乌军总共动用6个机械化营和2个坦克营，目的是在自认为俄军前线防御的薄弱部位突破。

他强调：“敌军没有完成任务，未能成功。”

科纳申科夫中将表示，由于[backcolor=rgba(155, 74, 255, 0.6)]“东方”部队集群的行动，乌克兰军队在南顿涅茨方向的损失超过250人、16辆坦克、3辆步兵战车、21辆装甲战车。

科纳申科夫说：“敌人没有完成任务，没有成功。由于‘东方’部队集群巧妙和称职的行动，乌克兰军队的损失超过250人，16辆坦克，3辆步兵战车，21辆装甲战车。”

https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1665437105231650819

Slaviangrad about the failed Ukrainian attack today:Additional information on the situation on the front. The enemy's reports of a frontal breakthrough and retreat of the Russian Armed Forces on the northern flank of the Zaporozhye Front are a throw-in and do not correspond to reality. Similarly, the reports about a breakthrough in the Ugledar direction are also rubbish. During today's attempted breakthrough in Zaporozhye and Donetsk regions, the enemy suffered heavy losses in manpower and equipment, and failed to build on the minor tactical successes achieved at the outset of the offensive. Confirmed total losses of the enemy in these areas: more than 10 tanks, more than 20 MBMs (Kozak, Humvee, MaxPro), at least 200 personnel.At the moment, few enemy infantry remain in the grey zone, deprived of armoured support and unable to take any serious action.All in all, today's adventure has cost the enemy much more than he had anticipated: the calculations of surprise did not materialize, the formations designed for "maneuver warfare" got bogged down and suffered expectedly high losses.Nevertheless, this was not the main blow, and the enemy would certainly try to repeat the breakthrough attempt, in the very near future.

作者: 远航一号 时间: 2023-6-5 03:13:54

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据了解，乌军今日“攻势”为旅级规模，未取得有意义突破，损失大量装甲和人员
此前，亲乌媒体谎称乌军在扎波罗热一线突破俄军防御

预先在此告知红色中国网友，以警惕国内亲帝舆论随后或数日后散布相关假消息

作者: 井冈山卫士 时间: 2023-6-5 04:11:30

基辅纳粹为此次“反攻”储备的人员和装备只能在一个地区进行战术试探。也就是说，这三百辆坦克和三万条人命，就算要听个响，也只能响一次。这一次在阿尔乔莫夫斯克城下已经响完了。

国内的亲帝媒体通常会把落后两个宣传周期的垃圾信息翻倍处理，大家要注意。

作者: 远航一号 时间: 2023-6-5 04:13:42

Liberation of Novomlynsk north of Kupyansk

Against the backdrop of today's attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine along the entire front, another important event fell out of the agenda: Russian soldiers crossed the Oskol

https://twitter.com/tretter50001/status/1665451338946301952

与此同时，俄军在库普扬斯克以北不断发展攻势

作者: 远航一号 时间: 2023-6-5 04:15:54

井冈山卫士发表于 2023-6-5 04:11
基辅纳粹为此次“反攻”储备的人员和装备只能在一个地区进行战术试探。也就是说，这三百辆坦克和三万条人命 ...

他们现在手上到底还有没有规模达几百辆坦克、大约10个旅的战略预备队，都是问题

作者: 井冈山卫士 时间: 2023-6-5 04:17:17

远航一号发表于 2023-6-5 04:15
他们现在手上到底还有没有规模达几百辆坦克、大约10个旅的战略预备队，都是问题 ...

在一个月前，阿尔乔莫夫斯克城下还是有的，现在估计不会再有了。

作者: 远航一号 时间: 2023-6-5 04:19:18

It is confirmed that the Russians have crossed the Oskal and have most likely secured the highground on the other side. Kharkov oblast is being pressured heavily.

https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1665454179555442690

作者: 井冈山卫士 时间: 2023-6-5 04:56:11

https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1665429843352207362

作者: 井冈山卫士 时间: 2023-6-5 05:01:25

全世界亲帝分子的精神状态

作者: 远航一号 时间: 2023-6-5 06:48:43

Full MoD statement on the failed AFU offensive:

⚡️ On the morning of June 4, the enemy launched a large-scale offensive in five sectors of the front in the South Donetsk direction by introducing into battle 23 and 31 mechanized brigades from the strategic reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the support of other military units and subunits.

◽️In total, six mechanized and two enemy tank battalions were involved .

◽️The enemy's goal was to break through our defenses on the most vulnerable, in his opinion, sector of the front.

◽️The enemy did not achieve his tasks, he had no success.

◽️As a result of skillful and competent actions of the Eastern Group of Forces, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to more than 250 personnel, 16 tanks, three infantry fighting vehicles, 21 armored fighting vehicles.

◽️Commander of the Joint Group of Forces - Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Gerasimov V.V. during this period he was at one of the advanced command posts in this direction.

作者: 远航一号 时间: 2023-6-5 06:52:52

远航一号发表于 2023-6-5 06:48
Full MoD statement on the failed AFU offensive:

⚡️ On the morning of June 4, the enemy launched ...

http://redchinacn.org/forum.php? ... mp;page=1#pid137543

俄罗斯国防部宣布挫败乌军攻势

乌军6月4日在顿涅茨克南线投入了来自两个旅的六个机械化营、两个坦克营

俄军消灭乌军250人、16辆坦克、3辆步兵作战车、21辆装甲车。

作者: 远航一号 时间: 2023-6-5 19:38:09

Ugledar direction:

The enemy threw Leopards into battle.
There are fights in many areas.
https://twitter.com/tretter50001/status/1665684780103475203

在弗勒达方向，乌军投入了豹式坦克

作者: 远航一号 时间: 2023-6-5 19:46:17

On the border of the Zaporozhye region and the DPR, in the area of the Vremievsky ledge, the Armed Forces of Ukraine resumed the assault on Russian positions.

https://twitter.com/tretter50001/status/1665681054009630720

当地时间6月5日下午两点，乌军在扎波罗热一线尝试发起新的进攻

作者: 井冈山卫士 时间: 2023-6-5 23:49:19

俄军在南线的工事。

比起去年秋天，今天的俄军数量更多，质量更好，火力更猛，技术更进步，工事更完备，而且处在有利于防御的地形。而乌军则全面削弱了。

作者: 井冈山卫士 时间: 2023-6-5 23:52:56

https://twitter.com/MikaelValterss1/status/1665646597688946692

ANALYSIS UKRAINIAN OFFENSIVE OPERATIONS JUNE 4
June 4th UkrAF scaled up offensive operations on the Southern Front, but the losses are too high for long time success. Earlier operations were mainly reconnaissance in force with platoon and company sized combat groups. Yesterday the ukrainian forces seemed to be battalion sized combat groups. According to Russian MoD 8 UkrAF battalions was involved in offensive operations SE of Mala Tokmachka (1), at the Vremivka salient (2) and East of Vuhledar towards Velikonovoselovka (3). The fighting was intense, but on most places ukrainian forces was turned back, mainly by intense russian artillery and air attacks. On some places UkrAF succeeded in capturing a couple of hundred meters.

There are two different media stories about the fighting. The ukrainian side is very quiet about both the attacks and eventual losses on their side. Russian sources are much more liberal with information, both in text and videos. IF the russian information is correct, this explains the ukrainian silence, since the ukrainian side seldom concedes major losses on their side and tries to shift attention to other subjects.

According to the russian side, ukrainian losses amount at least 10 tanks, nearly 40 IFVs or APCs and at least 250 eliminated (KIA or very badly WIA). With this number of eliminated, the number of wounded would probably be 750-1000.

Are these numbers true, the prospects for a ukrainian counteroffensive looks very dim. This is even if we don't take into account the ongoing intense russian air and artillery offensive against UkrAF troop concentrations, ammunition and fuel depots.

With losses of over 1000 KIA and WIA that means that a ukrainian brigade of 4000 man loose at least 25 percent of its manpower. That's on the brink of making a brigade unusable. Two days fighting with such losses would destroy a brigades battle capability. 24 days with such losses would in effect destroy the entire fist of 12 brigades UkrAF has gathered for the counteroffensive. With losses of around 12 brigades, 25 000 KIA/WIA, 250 tanks and 1000 IFVs/APCs all the strategic reserves UkrAF has built during the last 6 months would be gone. In exchange the ukrainian side could have advanced maybe 10 km on some places or more generally 2-3 km along maybe half the southern front.

Once again, IF the russian claims are true, RuAF must feel relieved and UkrAF very worried by the results of the fighting on the Southern front June 4th.

作者: 井冈山卫士 时间: 2023-6-5 23:56:08

井冈山卫士发表于 2023-6-5 23:52
https://twitter.com/MikaelValterss1/status/1665646597688946692

ANALYSIS UKRAINIAN OFFENSIVE OPERATI ...

两天的战斗已经让相当于一个旅的乌军失去的战斗力。按照这个烈度，再打一个月，单是这个方向的消耗就已经超过了乌军积攒的全部“反击”力量。

作者: 井冈山卫士 时间: 2023-6-5 23:59:00

https://twitter.com/witte_sergei/status/1665739235276488706

前几天在南线的攻击有可能是试探性的，真正的“反攻”已经在昨天开始。

作者: 井冈山卫士 时间: 2023-6-6 00:04:04

“大谢尔盖”推测的乌军反攻可能计划。

作者: 井冈山卫士 时间: 2023-6-6 00:08:48

井冈山卫士发表于 2023-6-6 00:04
“大谢尔盖”推测的乌军反攻可能计划。

乌格勒达方向佯攻，牵制俄军兵力。登陆并占领核电站。然后再托克马克方向发动向心突击。

这个计划不像是乌克兰人做的，倒像是出自英国殖民军事顾问的手笔。乌军主要的突进方向上全都有俄军的工事。而且，就算侵占了托克马克，乌军也不会有任何能能力进一步突进到沿海交通线。

这一切像是英军在阿拉曼战役的复盘。但是乌军即没有制空权，也没有兵力和火力优势。

作者: 井冈山卫士 时间: 2023-6-6 00:16:49

现在的形势越来越明朗了。

别尔哥罗德方向的恐怖袭击是“泽连斯基”的“反攻”，力图用屠杀平民制造混乱的方式恐吓俄罗斯民众，刺激俄军的过激举动，获取政治收益。扎波罗热方向的“反攻”有一定的军事意义，其目标是切断从塔甘罗格到克里米亚的交通线，但是这里是俄军重点布防地域，乌军准备又很不充分。

乌军被迫从战线其他部分抽出兵力，俄军有可能加强在库皮扬斯克和红利曼方向的进攻。

作者: 远航一号 时间: 2023-6-6 00:35:10

井冈山卫士发表于 2023-6-5 23:59
https://twitter.com/witte_sergei/status/1665739235276488706

前几天在南线的攻击有可能是试探性的，真 ...

对，昨天可以算乌军千呼万唤始出来的夏季攻势的开始

作者: 马儿在驰骋 时间: 2023-6-6 00:47:08

井冈山卫士发表于 2023-6-6 00:08
乌格勒达方向佯攻，牵制俄军兵力。登陆并占领核电站。然后再托克马克方向发动向心突击。

这个计划不像是 ...

阿拉曼复盘可不像，要说哪里像的话，俄军倒像是当年阿拉曼的英军，乌军反而更像是德意联军。

扎波罗热和顿涅茨克的地形与阿拉曼的北非大沙漠就天壤之别。

作者: 井冈山卫士 时间: 2023-6-6 00:54:35

马儿在驰骋发表于 2023-6-6 00:47
阿拉曼复盘可不像，要说哪里像的话，俄军倒像是当年阿拉曼的英军，乌军反而更像是德意联军。

扎波罗热和 ...

我没说明白。我想说的是此次乌军的计划像是阿拉曼英军的计划，但是实力对比却不像。

作者: 井冈山卫士 时间: 2023-6-6 01:06:56

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